Help me with finding settings for HiHat pedal

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Help me with finding settings for HiHat pedal

Postby kimouette » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:38 pm

Sorry for the intrusion, but I'm currently having issues with my optical hi-hat too! So I'll just post it here...

Actually I'm not sure if it's related to my hardware or my settings :?

For couple of months I had no problem with my hi-hat. Finding the right settings was fairly easy and I was happy with the whole thing. But 3 days ago I changed my hihat stand and pedal (the old pedal was tooo cheap!), so of course I unplugged everything, put the optical controller back on my new stand and the old mark I had put on the rod no longer exists.
So I put everything back as normal (and enjoy my new pedal), but now there's something strange happening with the hihat (or controller?, or Megadrum?, or input, or settings?)

I can no longer find the right high and low values! I press the pedal and try to play with the Low value, but there's no way I can reach something close to 0.
And when the pedal is released I can only reach 127 if I set the value to 1023. But then the low value follows that setting and I get even further from 0.

It looks to me like no matter what values I chose, I always have a very small range (about 20) between low and high.

The worst part is that, when pressing/releasing the pedal I get random results

For exemple : with low value set to 192, I could only get as low as 50, and all of a sudden I get a 8

In other words, I feel like I have no REAL control over my settings! :cry:
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Re: Help me with finding settings for HiHat pedal

Postby dmitri » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:49 pm

Please, measure voltage on the HiHat pedal input when the pedal is pressed and depressed.
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Re: Help me with finding settings for HiHat pedal

Postby kimouette » Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:21 pm

I searched on the forum for my post this afternoon and thought it had disapeared!
So even before reading your post Dmitri, I borrowed a new jack and found my other optical hi-hat (Jman's first design) and I thought... if I still have issues with these, than I'll be 100% sure the problem comes from my MD.

So I hooked up the new jack and installed the old controller and the problem dispeared. Then I put back my controller and Jack and it was still working :?

2 possible reason :
- There's a ghost in my MD
- There was dust or something stuck in my controller

Atleast the problem is solved!

There's something else I'd like to know....
:?: May I ask you guys who have an optical hi-hat, if you also get false triggering when you hit your HH cymbal? I can clearly see the HH's rod shaking everytime i hit the cymbal and this is causing false triggering! (hitting the cymbal strongly even causes the pedal to be slightly pressed!) I tried to put my top cymbal higher on the rod so that the "nut" would not touch the controller at all, but then the chick notes are not triggered properly and the splash notes are almost impossible to trigger (plus I'm affraid to break the controller as the nut "bangs" on it!)

Anyone found a way to get rid of this problem?
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Re: Help me with finding settings for HiHat pedal

Postby gabriel1712 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:25 am

kimouette wrote:May I ask you guys who have an optical hi-hat, if you also get false triggering when you hit your HH cymbal? I can clearly see the HH's rod shaking everytime i hit the cymbal and this is causing false triggering! (hitting the cymbal strongly even causes the pedal to be slightly pressed!) I tried to put my top cymbal higher on the rod so that the "nut" would not touch the controller at all, but then the chick notes are not triggered properly and the splash notes are almost impossible to trigger (plus I'm affraid to break the controller as the nut "bangs" on it!)

Anyone found a way to get rid of this problem?

I don't have an opticle hihat, but as the cymbal and controller are physically connected by design, I would suggest making the controller setting more tolerent to shaking, by raising the OpenLvl. If set too low every little movement will count as a depression.

I have a slight retriggering issue with soft Edge strokes in my variable hihat and the solution is in the cymbal setting. Your cymbal setting may also be in need of a tweak.
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