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1ManBand - Back Pack Drums - MegaDrum looks GOOD

Postby marcrocs » Tue May 18, 2010 6:08 pm

Hey guys, I'm so glad to find this DIY project and what looks like a decent community of users in this forum. Not all forums are nice place.

I have built, am continuing to tweak and have many things still to add, try and maybe fail to a back back drum kit... AKA OneManBand. Nothing is better then a picture and some video huh?

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And the 1st promo video is here:

http://www.youtube.com/marcrocs

I think a custom built megedrum unit is gonna be a perfect solution for me :D

I also have a thread on drumshed.org about this build:

http://forum.drumshed.org/showthread.php?t=23754

My history / introduction:

Been playing guitar and singing for 20 years, for a living. For the most part I've worked solo playing acoustic and singing,,, and much more playing acoustic and electric guitar, singing over midi tracks with midi controlled harmonizer and effect changes. Been working with midi tracks for 20 years. Also (for reference trying not to show my ego) I've held steady gigs playing bass, playing bass and keys, I read music, have 1/2 a Bachelor of Music Degree, supported National acts as side man, played the dang Tuba for 8 years in school, have played every type of venue possible:torture tub ships, concert stages, clubs, pool side, in front of the bathroom door and more. I started making money as a busker/street performer and recently I've picked up a chapman stick but at this point I've yet to work it into regular solo gigs. K, done with the ego.


...AND at this point I've done about 20 gigs with my act now called OneManRocks.com

Why do I want triggers?

I already have wireless units for my vocal and guitar. I have been micing the bass drum with a hand held wireless. I wanna add harmonica dedicated mic and if I start to play my chapman stick with this thing that's another 2 channels of wireless. I will need a mic for the snare and am planning to add 2 toms. At a really loud volume I suppose I would need an overhead for the cymbals :o

My plan with this onemanband drum is organic and visual. Since I'm now planning on triggers, I may change plan from "all drum hits need to be seen by audience" to "most drum hits need to be seen". The visual is a very high selling point on this act. With triggers I can imagine mounting ZenDrum like pads somewhere and utilizing them.

One of my 1st concerns is already answered. Can a megadrum run off batteries? YES
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1097&start=0&hilit=battery

2nd concern is wireless midi, part of that answer is on the above thread as well as:

Option 1:

M-Audio MidAir
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/474987-REG/M_Audio_9900_52140_00_MidAir_Wireless_MIDI_System.html

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BUT the MidAir got some bad reviews and...
In the studio or on stage, as a 2.4 GHz wireless device, the MidAir system functions at distances up to 30 feet with the same feel and response as a wired unit.


Option 2

MidiJet Pro
http://www.midijet.com/products/midijet.asp?gclid=CMGKodiX3KECFUtX2godJwOhNA

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It looks good, a bit pricey at $400 but for my project it's looks to be a Pro level and worth the money. My Sennheiser G2 wireless units were over $400 each, any decent wireless unit with selectable frequency is in the $400 to $500 range.

There are a few other obscure options but

Option 3 would be build a midi wireless myself, bluetooth has been mentioned but I don't know about the range and the latency. Seems every bluetooth device I've used has latency, or at least that's my perception.

I've got lots of other stuff to get done to my drums before I get to adding triggers but I think I got a plan now.

I'm an experienced DIY'r, I've built these back pack drums, an addition to my house and more but I got to say upfront I hate working on small electronics :roll: I'm sure I can get it done BUT I may recruit my neighbor or find a way to wimp out on making the PCB like buying that kit.

And lastly I think my plan will be something like:

Custom build out a megadrum module:
- fit it inside my bass drum.
- light weight as possible
- use 9V batteries (not something I can't buy easily incase I forget to rehcarge)
- trigger wires will run thru the bass drum to other drums
- Mount the LCD so I can see it and controls so I can adjust while playing.
This one is worthy of a babbling explanation. Every time, in every part of this drum kit build that I need to adjust something I need to take the drums off, it's a PITA.
I'm planning on trying to utilize the up and down swing of my guitar strumming hand to hit the hi hat or another snare drum stick. I may fail at that but I'll have to build out U shaped thing from the drum that extends infront of me in order to mount pulleys to get the rope to pull at the right angle from my hand to get these hits... did I loose you? That's over my shoulder from the drum, straight down and then back to the drum under the guitar and attache 3 or 4 pulleys to 3 or 4 ropes (parachute cord) to sticks mount like bass drum pedals to the drums.
Back to the LCD... other idea I have is to use a cell phone mount to hang my smart phone from so I can see it. I cover 300+ songs as is (been playing for a living for 20 years) and remembering lyrics can be fun.
With the megadrum and unlike a premade trigger to midi unit I can put the controls anywhere I want in anything they will fit in ;)

I'm sure I'm missing some of my thoughts that make this thing work in my head. Ask questions if ya want or if you have any insight post a reply. This thing is a compilation of other ideas, I'm just putting it all together :mrgreen:

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Re: 1ManBand - Back Pack Drums - MegaDrum looks GOOD

Postby jman 31 » Tue May 18, 2010 8:39 pm

You are a nutcase, but it sounds like it will all work to me! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Whoops sorry, I forgot this was supposed to be a nice place. :lol: The batteries will work although I am not sure how much run time you will get. You will need a voltage regulator to take the 9volts to 5. You might do better with three 1.5v batteries. Also if you use a non-backlit lcd the batteries will last a lot longer. or use an on/off switch for the backlight that you can turn on easily when you get ready to adjust the Megadrum.

Good luck and please post pictures if you decide to go this route.
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Re: 1ManBand - Back Pack Drums - MegaDrum looks GOOD

Postby Firelord » Tue May 18, 2010 9:09 pm

Wow. I've always dreamed of being able to play all instruments by myself and at the same time (for me this is mostly because it is so hard to make other people play your ideas exactly right). So here is a pretty interesting solution, I guess :-)

I think Dmitri will move this to the Off-topic section of the forum though.
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Re: 1ManBand - Back Pack Drums - MegaDrum looks GOOD

Postby dmitri » Tue May 18, 2010 9:21 pm

Firelord wrote:I think Dmitri will move this to the Off-topic section of the forum though.

I was actually thinking of this. I'll do it later.
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Re: 1ManBand - Back Pack Drums - MegaDrum looks GOOD

Postby marcrocs » Fri May 21, 2010 5:24 am

Thanks for replies. I don't mind this thread being moved, I moderate some forums and manage a small social network. I know how people can come in way off topic :shock:

I'm still weeks away from adding triggers. I am looking at all my options and I'm going to my drum guru friend's house next week. He's got a bag of the remo pretuned heads, I may use those for my 2 toms. He also has a home made or modified version of the Rhythm Tech Laptop Practice Snare. Also I'm looking at Trap Drums http://www.trapsdrumsusa.com/ and the A400 kit. I emailed them straight up and they will work with me on 2 toms and the snare from that kit.

I don't know yet what my best choice will be.

Also I've got to option out using a drum trigger module with sounds built in and use audio wireless instead of midi wireless. Spoke to a friend of mine who's using the M-Audio MidAir and he says it drops notes with a most likely cuase of Bluetooth devices nearby, he can get 40 feet out of it BUT he's looking to upgrade. Another friend of mine is swearing midi wireless won't work with out latency issues no matter how much is spent.

Hopefully I'll be able to make a wise choice between audio wireless and midi wireless for my contraption drum kit before I make the investment.

I love the idea of DIY'n a megadrum though, my friends are going to have to argue me down hard to change my mind. It would give me so many options compared to the other ways I have to get this done.

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