Please help about positional sensing snare pad!

[dmitri]

Most likely you don't need to use any trimmers.

[cagrisari]

Can I use this trimmer?

[cagrisari]

Okay, first I'll try without voltage divider.

[cagrisari]

I could not! I wired two piezo without trimmer like both of those picture. I hit piezo with my fingers, first piezo plays "Snare open hit(addictive drum -drum maps number 36)" but second piezo plays "snare rim shot (addictive drum-number37).

There isn't "rim click" or "snare side stick"? What sholud I do?
Please anyone help me.

[dmitri]

Read http://www.megadrum.info/content/pads-settings and in particular about DualHead, Type, BNote, DualMidPoint and DualMidWidth.

[cagrisari]

I read it. But I don't understand. For example what should I set for positional sensing: dual head- yes or 3way? what should I do simply can you write?

[dmitri]

You were asking about rim shot, "rim click" and "side stick". All of these have nothing to do with positional sensing. You cannot get positional sensing on a bare piezo. For positional sensing you must use a mesh type pad with a centrally located piezo and your software must support MIDI CC16 for positional sensing. See viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2052 and viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1215

[cagrisari]

Hi dmitri.
I think you dont understand me. I bought a module a few weeks ago from you.
Now I'm making mesh pads.
I connected the module viaUSB. I use ADDICTIVE DRUMS (with map windows) I know addictive drums support positional sensing snare. So;
1. What means the midicc16? Should I connect via midi cable?
2. What "positional sensing snare" pad has got components? Only two piezo? One piezo centred located, other one piezo on the rim? is it true? I dont know anything sorry.
3. How I must wiring piezzos. Roland style? Or alesis style? Because they are different.
4. After wiring what should I do? I think connect pad to module 4.input.(for snare)
5. Then what should I do? Please say step by step. Because my english not enough for understanding long posts. What should I set the addictive drums software. And finally how can I test positional sensing pad. It works or not work? How can I understand. Pfff

Best regards

[dmitri]

First of all, I'm not the right person to ask about building pads or cymbals. I've never done it myself.

Hi dmitri.
I think you dont understand me. I bought a module a few weeks ago from you.
Now I'm making mesh pads.
I connected the module viaUSB. I use ADDICTIVE DRUMS (with map windows) I know addictive drums support positional sensing snare. So;
1. What means the midicc16? Should I connect via midi cable?

MIDI CC16 is what Roland uses for positional sensing information and what is conventionally used by software synthesizers, I guess Addictive Drums included, for the same purpose. It doesn't matter if you use USB or standard MIDI for this.

2. What "positional sensing snare" pad has got components? Only two piezo? One piezo centred located, other one piezo on the rim? is it true? I dont know anything sorry.

Again, I never built pads myself so I'm hardly of any help on this. Positional sensing in MegaDrum was tested by me with Roland PD 125X, Drumtec 14" snare and Pintech 10" snare. All of these snares are mesh type pads with centrally located piezo. For positional sensing it doesn't matter if a pad is single zone or dual zone, it uses only the head piezo.

3. How I must wiring piezzos. Roland style? Or alesis style? Because they are different.

You can wire it either way.

4. After wiring what should I do? I think connect pad to module 4.input.(for snare)

You can use Positional sensing capable pads on any of inputs 4, 6, 8, 10 and 12. Again, see viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2052

5. Then what should I do? Please say step by step. Because my english not enough for understanding long posts. What should I set the addictive drums software. And finally how can I test positional sensing pad. It works or not work? How can I understand. Pfff

Then you have to configure Positional settings in your MegaDrum using PositionalIn, PositionalLv, PositionalLow and PositionalHi from Miscellaneous submenu (see http://www.megadrum.info/content/miscellaneous-settings ). You can read about how I did it in viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1215 (the link I gave you in my previous post).
And of course you have to configure your software synthesizer to recognize Positional sensing data received from MegaDrum (MIDI CC16 ), in your case Addictive Drums. I don't have Addictive Drums myself so I cannot guide you with its configuration but you can ask if somebody uses Addictive Drums with Positional sensing in Related Software subforum.

[airflamesred]

You will need to make the pad before you go much further with this. You are trying to run before you walk.