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Re: bat85

Postby ubaid88 » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:05 pm

Well problems like what?
I have tested with a piezo.
No 1n5818 is working fine. I am using it. But it very difficult for it to fit on pcb. Its radius is 0.7 while bats have 0.5 radius. So your wide dirilling can damage the tracks of pcb.
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Re: bat85

Postby dmitri » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:22 pm

ubaid88 wrote:Well problems like what?
I have tested with a piezo.
No 1n5818 is working fine. I am using it. But it very difficult for it to fit on pcb. Its radius is 0.7 while bats have 0.5 radius. So your wide dirilling can damage the tracks of pcb.

Apparently 1N5817/8/9 are not fast enough. The obvious effect is an electrical crosstalk between channels on piezo hits. The multiplexers might get damaged as well.
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Re: bat85

Postby ubaid88 » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:45 pm

dmitri wrote:
ubaid88 wrote:Well problems like what?
I have tested with a piezo.
No 1n5818 is working fine. I am using it. But it very difficult for it to fit on pcb. Its radius is 0.7 while bats have 0.5 radius. So your wide dirilling can damage the tracks of pcb.

Apparently 1N5817/8/9 are not fast enough. The obvious effect is an electrical crosstalk between channels on piezo hits. The multiplexers might get damaged as well.


Can suggest me test to confirm that 1n5818 is not suitable to use? If that so i may need to make a new pcb. :(
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Re: bat85

Postby dmitri » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:52 pm

Connect a few pads to inputs on the same multiplexer and hit them fairly strongly. You will see crosstalk between inputs even without having mechanical crosstalk between the pads.
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Re: bat85

Postby ubaid88 » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:01 pm

I have not build pads yet.
I have currently only tested with one peizo only. I will try with 3/4 peizos.
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Re: bat85

Postby ubaid88 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:03 pm

Success. No cross talk at all, With 1N5818. I 2 connected peizos at 8,9 pin(dual zone Ride) which is going to first multiplexer.
I have checked it. No problem at all. No crosstalk. See the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OA3GgZayw0
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Re: bat85

Postby dmitri » Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:12 pm

ubaid88 wrote:Success. No cross talk at all, With 1N5818. I 2 connected peizos at 8,9 pin(dual zone Ride) which is going to first multiplexer.
I have checked it. No problem at all. No crosstalk. See the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OA3GgZayw0

What is an exact make and model of multiplexers you're using?
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Re: bat85

Postby ubaid88 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:34 pm

SGS Thomson hcf4051be
http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf-dat ... 391382.pdf

But they are very cheap one. Exactly equal prize of piezo each.

So do you they are different one than usual 4051s?
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Re: bat85

Postby dmitri » Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:17 pm

Well, it might be that this particular version of 4051 has a better overvoltage protection/tolerance or your particular batch of 1N5818s has better characteristics.
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