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2Box Pad compatibility

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:24 am
by krickgpe
Hi,
Can you tell me if 2Box pad and cymbals are compatible with MD?
Thanks.

Re: 2Box Pad compatibility

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:05 am
by dmitri
Unless 2Box pads/cymbals don't use piezos for triggering, I don't see why the should not be compatible with MegaDrum.

Re: 2Box Pad compatibility

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:57 am
by jarosz
Hi!

I'm interested in the answer for the foregoing question, because I'm not sure if the 3 zone cymbal design would be 100% compatible. According to the 2box manual (http://www.2box.se/download/pdf/DrumIt_ ... h_1.32.pdf pages 44-45) the design of 2box 3-zone cymbal is: Piezo/Switch/Velocity and Yamaha is Piezo/Switch/Switch. Would it make any difference in handling it with MegaDrum?

Re: 2Box Pad compatibility

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:38 am
by dmitri
What is Velocity in the "Piezo/Switch/Velocity" context?

Re: 2Box Pad compatibility

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:18 am
by ignotus
2box cymbals have a switch on the edge and a piezo in the bell. It basically switches from bow to bell notes according to velocity. AFAIK Megadrum doesn't support this.

Re: 2Box Pad compatibility

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:10 pm
by airflamesred
True but it is possible to wire another input to the piezo and restrict the velocity curves.

Re: 2Box Pad compatibility

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:17 pm
by dmitri
I've never had such cymbals so I cannot test it myself but I think you can configure such cymbals with MegaDrum:
1. Connect bow/edge to one jack and configure it as a dual zone piezo/switch.
2. Connect bell/edge to another jack and again configure it as a dual zone piezo/switch.
3. Put all zones into the same separate XTalk group.

Re: 2Box Pad compatibility

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:24 pm
by ignotus
dmitri wrote:I've never had such cymbals so I cannot test it myself but I think you can configure such cymbals with MegaDrum:
1. Connect bow/edge to one jack and configure it as a dual zone piezo/switch.
2. Connect bell/edge to another jack and again configure it as a dual zone piezo/switch.
3. Put all zones into the same separate XTalk group.

I don't think you can do that because all you have is a single piezo (for bow and bell) and one switch (edge/choke) to work with. You can't connect bow/edge to one place and bell/edge to another because bow and bell are physically the same sensor.

airflamesred wrote:True but it is possible to wire another input to the piezo and restrict the velocity curves.

I reckon this should work.

Re: 2Box Pad compatibility

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:17 pm
by dmitri
ignotus wrote:You can't connect bow/edge to one place and bell/edge to another because bow and bell are physically the same sensor.

I don't understand. So it has only one piezo for both bow and bell?

Re: 2Box Pad compatibility

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:39 pm
by ignotus
dmitri wrote:
ignotus wrote:You can't connect bow/edge to one place and bell/edge to another because bow and bell are physically the same sensor.

I don't understand. So it has only one piezo for both bow and bell?
Yep. One piezo under the bell. Bow hits produce a weaker signal that the module interprets as such, and direct hits on the bell produce a stronger signal. The module basically changes the bow/bell notes depending on the velocity - a light bell hit would result in a bow note.