Hihat pedal notes - using them in midi applications?

[CarpathianBreed]

So, defining the notes in the hi-hat pedal settings for Semiopen/Halfopen/Semiclosed/Closed Bell/Bow/Edge zones. How does this work in practice? My plan was to use this to play hi-hat in Reason where samples are loaded to sampler and set to respond to these notes defined in the hi-hat pedal settings.

Is the Note defined in the head/bow pad settings the "open" note since in the hi-hat pedal settings there are are only Semiopen/Halfopen/Semiclosed/Closed notes to be set? Am I on the right track at least? And does MD put out all the midi information and let the application use what it needs? That meaning it would not put out the midi notes as they are defined in the hi-hat pedal settings for each stage of the 3 zones.

The foot controller works good and smooth giving a good range between closed and open, the 3-zone hi-hat is configured as a Roland 3-way pad and works. Right now I don´t have the access for a drum program that would utilize the CC04 value of the controller with the defined pad notes for the 3 zones so I´m thinking about a way to play hi-hat on Reason.

Is it possible? I hope I´m making any sense.

Thanks again guys!

K

[dmitri]

I'm not sure I understand what your problems is. If you cannot use CC4 for HiHat pedal positions in your soft synth but still want to use intermediate positions between Open and Closed then you have to configure "Semiopen/Halfopen/Semiclosed/Closed Bell/Bow/Edge zones" Notes in MegaDrum to match desired HiHat sounds in your soft synth. Of course you will need to adjust Open/Closed/SemiOpen/HalfOpen Levels as well to define which sounds are triggered at which pedal position.

[CarpathianBreed]

I'm not sure I understand what your problems is. If you cannot use CC4 for HiHat pedal positions in your soft synth but still want to use intermediate positions between Open and Closed then you have to configure "Semiopen/Halfopen/Semiclosed/Closed Bell/Bow/Edge zones" Notes in MegaDrum to match desired HiHat sounds in your soft synth. Of course you will need to adjust Open/Closed/SemiOpen/HalfOpen Levels as well to define which sounds are triggered at which pedal position.

Hi Dmitri,

You got me quite right. Thanks for replying I´m still working on the kit with my friend who I built the kit for. I will let him know to take some screen shots and post them here if necessary.

K

[CarpathianBreed]

So here´s the screenshots regarding the hihat settings. The Dampened note on the 3rd zone column is incorrect. Other than that, is there something we´re missing because with these settings rrecording megadrum midi into cubase gave only the "Note" assigned to all zones in the pad settings. Pedal movement did nothing regarding the note changing.



Thanks again!

K

[dmitri]

1. I cannot see anything in the screenshots.
2. Are saying that you've adjusted Open/Closed/SemiOpen/HalfOpen Levels and "Semiopen/Halfopen/Semiclosed/Closed Bell/Bow/Edge zones" Notes as you want them and yet MegaDrum doesn't send those Notes when the pedal is in various positions?

[CarpathianBreed]

1. I cannot see anything in the screenshots.

Do you mean you can´t see the screenshot or do you mean you can´t see anything out of the ordinary?

2. Are saying that you've adjusted Open/Closed/SemiOpen/HalfOpen Levels and "Semiopen/Halfopen/Semiclosed/Closed Bell/Bow/Edge zones" Notes as you want them and yet MegaDrum doesn't send those Notes when the pedal is in various positions?

Yes, this is correct. The module is sending CC04 like it should but changing the pedal position doesn´t change the notes. All played notes still show as the Note/AltNote/Pressroll set in the pad settings for Bow/Bell/Edge.

[CarpathianBreed]

Here are new screenshots since the last one ended up so that no one could make any sense of it. Sorry for that.

[CarpathianBreed]

And the rest..

[dmitri]

1. What is the reason you set 'Reverse Levels'?
2. When you open/close the pedal, does the HiHat pedal VU meter follow accordingly?
3. When the pedal is fully close and you hit the bow what note does it send? If it is note 50 then post a screenshot of the MIDI Log->Raw MIDI when you close the pedal and then hit the Bow.
4. Settings names in blue means these MDM settings are not in sync with settings in MegaDrum.

[CarpathianBreed]

1. What is the reason you set 'Reverse Levels'?

The conroller uses Hall effect sensor. It´s the polarity of the magnet that is the reason for reversing the levels.

2. When you open/close the pedal, does the HiHat pedal VU meter follow accordingly?

Yes. This works well with the CC Reduction level set like this the action is pretty smooth and no CC04 when fully open or fully closed.

3. When the pedal is fully close and you hit the bow what note does it send? If it is note 50 then post a screenshot of the MIDI Log->Raw MIDI when you close the pedal and then hit the Bow.

I let my guy know to come by the forum and post the screenshots as soon as possible.

4. Settings names in blue means these MDM settings are not in sync with settings in MegaDrum.

Ah, ok. We shall look into that. There are occasional sysex timeouts happening so it might be that the settings haven´t got through. As we go along with the configurations slowly the procedure is usually to Send All to megadrum. Then save to slot and then save the configuration to the computer so that everything would be up to date at all times.

Thanks for the help figuring this out so far!