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24 input daughter board better pics

Postby kurtus420 » Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:53 am

Hey everyone, how are you all? I have made a 24 input daughter board using the schematic found here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=474&hilit=extension&start=20. Here's some pictures, please go easy on me as I just kinda slapped it together without using to much thought, Synthex, is there a way to test this to verify that it will work without connecting the jacks to it, I don't want to drill holes in my enclosure to find out that this daughter board doesn't work, also, I never connected the copper shield of the wire on analog input 3,4 and 5 to ground, is this necessary? I can't wait to see if this works but I'm waiting on some rotary encoders before I open up my megadrum and add the jacks, maybe a week :cry: Thanks, Kurt.
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Re: 24 input daughter board pics

Postby Synthex » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:04 am

Pictures are not available.
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Re: 24 input daughter board pics

Postby kurtus420 » Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:58 pm

I was seeing them, which is strange, is it working now? Thanks
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Re: 24 input daughter board pics

Postby Rubis » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:15 pm

Pictures work fine for me.

Just hold a piezo or a jack to the ground and one of the inputs. That's how I tested my v2.8 inputs boards. Ground yourself first.
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Re: 24 input daughter board pics

Postby kurtus420 » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:51 pm

What did you use to ground yourself with? Thanks
Rubis wrote:Pictures work fine for me.

Just hold a piezo or a jack to the ground and one of the inputs. That's how I tested my v2.8 inputs boards. Ground yourself first.
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Re: 24 input daughter board better pics

Postby Rubis » Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:59 am

Just touch some unpainted metal or something.
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Re: 24 input daughter board better pics

Postby kurtus420 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:10 am

Synthex was saying that the input wires on pin 3,4 and 5 need to be shielded to prevent noise from occurring, out of curiosity what would the adverse effects be if I was getting noise? Thanks Rubis, why do I need to ground myself anyways when testing the inputs, I was under the impression that I only need to be grounded (which I never did do by the way) when handling the ic's in general?
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Re:Need help with 24 input daughter board/pics included

Postby kurtus420 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:22 pm

Hi all, I'm looking for help as to what I should do with the shield on the analog wires, does anyone know if it matters that I never grounded the shields on the daughter board? I'm starting to think that I should have but now I can only attach a ground by cutting a slice in the side of the cable and soldering a ground wire to each of the shields then to ground on the daughter board. I can't connect the shield at the ext connector side, not sure if connecting the one end of the shield to ground will suffice. The main problem is that I epoxied the analog wires to the circuit board as well as the 8 pin connector so that they don't break off from movement so now I can't get at the end of the shield on either side(what a dumbass I am :roll: ). Thanks for any input on this, Kurt
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Re: 24 input daughter board better pics

Postby Rubis » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:29 pm

kurtus420 wrote:Synthex was saying that the input wires on pin 3,4 and 5 need to be shielded to prevent noise from occurring, out of curiosity what would the adverse effects be if I was getting noise? Thanks Rubis, why do I need to ground myself anyways when testing the inputs, I was under the impression that I only need to be grounded (which I never did do by the way) when handling the ic's in general?
Thanks

You are probably OK, but whenever I directly touch anything electronic, I ground myself. I have forgotten twice now and had to reinstall the firmware. :oops: I wasn't even touching the ICs. I have it in a box finally, so it shouldn't happen anymore.

Not sure what would happen on the noise, but I would guess it would be like the people who get crosstalk on triggers that aren't even plugged in or who lose usb midi connection when the fridge turns on.
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Re: 24 input daughter board better pics

Postby kurtus420 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:03 pm

Thanks Rubis, I'm going to ground the one side of the shields onto the daughter board as a precaution, sure wish I went with my instincts to ground the shield in the first place :oops: . A while back my programmed pic from synthex failed i guess not grounding myself my have played a part in it, my pic was failing to receive any sysex commands so I had to replace and program it, which I did ungrounded. I never lost my firmware but I really should be more careful in the future :roll: .


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kurtus420 wrote:Synthex was saying that the input wires on pin 3,4 and 5 need to be shielded to prevent noise from occurring, out of curiosity what would the adverse effects be if I was getting noise? Thanks Rubis, why do I need to ground myself anyways when testing the inputs, I was under the impression that I only need to be grounded (which I never did do by the way) when handling the ic's in general?
Thanks

You are probably OK, but whenever I directly touch anything electronic, I ground myself. I have forgotten twice now and had to reinstall the firmware. :oops: I wasn't even touching the ICs. I have it in a box finally, so it shouldn't happen anymore.

Not sure what would happen on the noise, but I would guess it would be like the people who get crosstalk on triggers that aren't even plugged in or who lose usb midi connection when the fridge turns on.
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