Configuring using Megadrum Config Tool Problem

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Configuring using Megadrum Config Tool Problem

Postby BangingAway » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:05 am

Hi all,
I've recently updated my firmware from the original supplied to 20111006 and also downloaded the latest (I believe) Megadrum Config Tool version 1.84. The upgrade appeared to go well after much reading on here and by eventually using the Mac command line tool mdfwupdate binary downloaded from this forum (a thousand thanks to the author).
I now have two problems, one is new and the other I've never tried before so i can't say if it's since the upgrade or not.

1. Super fast controls on the MD unit.
When I twiddle the knobs (particularly the left to select the config item) it seems to move between options so fast that it often skips options even if I only turn it one ratchet notch at a time. This didn't happen on my old firmware, in fact quite the opposite ion that the option often wouldn't move on until I'd moved it several notches. This is making it difficult to configure the unit from the panel.

2. The MCT.
Because of (1) I thought I'd try this, never having used it before. I like it but it doesn't seem to send my updates to the MD. It says it has and it reports no issues in the application log, but it doesn't actually appear to send my updates. I've tried sending all, sending individual pads, sending all and writing to slot 1. Each time the notification bar says "sent". It also doesn't seem to read the settings on the MD, so I'm assuming it's a general communication issue. The midi monitor in the tool seems to work fine and shows my midi values and velocities ok, so it's not completely cut off.

Help would be gratefully received, and a screenshot of my config is attached.

Thanks, in advance.

[EDIT] - Most of my tests were done using bootloader V, not V3 as shown below. That was just experimentation for the sake of it. Also, I have run the Mandolane MIDI test utility amd when the USB was selected it, in doing whatever it is it does, made the red light flash on the MD unit. The MCT never makes the red light flash in any way. I assume that it's failing to talk over the USB port but gives every indication that it is (by sating "Sending..." quickly followed by "Sent").

[EDIT 2] - I ran the MegadrumManager from the command line to see what happened. I got this but no other messages at all during the get/send attempts :
$ java -jar MegaDrumManager.signed.jar
Mandolane MIDI SPI for OS X 10.5 or later Version 4.00

The options in the config page for the midi ports are (and I've tried them all) :
Midi In-
Plug1 <MIn:0>
Megadrum USB MIDI <MIn:1>
Plug1
Megadrum USB MIDI
Real Time Sequencer

Midi Out -

Plug1 <MIn:0>
Megadrum USB MIDI <MIn:1>
Plug1
Megadrum USB MIDI
Real Time Sequencer
Java Sound Synthesiser
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Re: Configuring using Megadrum Config Tool Problem

Postby dmitri » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:42 am

BangingAway wrote:1. Super fast controls on the MD unit.
When I twiddle the knobs (particularly the left to select the config item) it seems to move between options so fast that it often skips options even if I only turn it one ratchet notch at a time. This didn't happen on my old firmware, in fact quite the opposite ion that the option often wouldn't move on until I'd moved it several notches. This is making it difficult to configure the unit from the panel.

Are you using buttons or rotary encoders?

2. The MCT.

MCT is not compatible with latest firmware versions. Use MegaDrum Manager - viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1504 - and pay attention to what is highlighted in red there.
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Re: Configuring using Megadrum Config Tool Problem

Postby BangingAway » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:57 am

Hi Dmitri,
thanks for the quick response.

1. It's the rotary controls. I can use the buttons on them so no biggie. Just takes longer to get from one end to the other, that's all.

2. In between my original post and your reply I discovered that about the MCT and have switched to your MDM. It's the same thing. I do have Mandolane installed and my java is version 1.6. (I edited my original post but I think you replied before I submitted).

Since posting, I have discovered a more pressing problem - I can't seem to get any MIDI out of the MD now. It did last night, but doesn't this morning. The red light lights when pads are struck but nothing happens at the Mac end. I'm searching around for tests to perform to see if anything is coming out of the MD. Doing lots of searching, but if you have any specific pointers as someone who's probably done this a few more times than me it would be gratefully received :)

My firmware upgrade seemed to go ok but it does seem coincidental. Anyway, I'll keep looking.
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Re: Configuring using Megadrum Config Tool Problem

Postby BangingAway » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:12 am

Ok,
somehow my USB speed setting had become invalid. Set it back to USB+MIDI (from USB 2 only) and I'm now getting MIDI our of the MD. So that's one issue gone. Proved this by opening MDM and looking at the MIDI Log and it's working ok.

Still can't get the MD to accept the updated from the MDM though. Thoughts as to why I can receive MIDI from the MD but not the MD config?

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Re: Configuring using Megadrum Config Tool Problem

Postby dmitri » Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:29 pm

BangingAway wrote:1. It's the rotary controls. I can use the buttons on them so no biggie. Just takes longer to get from one end to the other, that's all.

Make sure AtlEncoders is set correctly.

somehow my USB speed setting had become invalid. Set it back to USB+MIDI (from USB 2 only) and I'm now getting MIDI our of the MD. So that's one issue gone. Proved this by opening MDM and looking at the MIDI Log and it's working ok.

Still can't get the MD to accept the updated from the MDM though. Thoughts as to why I can receive MIDI from the MD but not the MD config?

Does MDM detect firmware version?
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Re: Configuring using Megadrum Config Tool Problem

Postby BangingAway » Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:43 pm

Hi,

I set the AltEncodes from YES to NO, power cycled but it didn't make any difference. One notch on the rotator skips several menu options. It's no biggie, I can use the buttons.

The firmware is shown as ??????????
If I click GET or SEND a progress bar quickly counts from 0 to 100% as if it's doing something, but the light on the MD never comes on and nothing changes.

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Re: Configuring using Megadrum Config Tool Problem

Postby dmitri » Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:01 pm

BangingAway wrote:Hi,

I set the AltEncodes from YES to NO, power cycled but it didn't make any difference. One notch on the rotator skips several menu options. It's no biggie, I can use the buttons.

You have to set it to Yes. This setting is only saved when menu exits. If you change this setting and power cycle without exiting the menu it will revert to a previous setting.

The firmware is shown as ??????????
If I click GET or SEND a progress bar quickly counts from 0 to 100% as if it's doing something, but the light on the MD never comes on and nothing changes.

If the version is not detected there is no point in trying to do anything else - Sysex's are not sent/received by your Mac correctly in Java. Either "Mandolane MIDI SPI" is not installed correctly or it might be something else. You may also try mmj.
If problem persist, raise the issue in viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1504 rather than here.
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