Settings of hihat

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Settings of hihat

Postby km500 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:39 pm

1. How do you name a device which measure level of hihat (roland cy-5). It is device located under cy5 and measure (height) of that cy-5. I am using name Potentiometr. Is it right name ?
2. Using Roland CY-5 and Potentiometr should I set: Single Piezo or Dual or 3 zone Yamaha for BOW ? for EDGE should i set Piezo ?
4. As i wrote I am using roland cy-5. Which parts of hi hat should generate signal: Bow, Bell, Edge ?
5. I have read that roland cy-5 should generate only: Bow and Edge signal. Why my roland cy-5 generate Bell signal ?
6. Make some setting of Hihat I can do some settings in few zones.
    a. Left zone: MISC
    b. Center zone name: HIHAT PEDAL
    c. Right zone: PADS (HEAD/BOW and RIM/EDGE)
What is connection between sounds set in PADS zone and sounds set in HIHAT PEDAL zone ? Settings done in HIHAT PEDAL zone describe exactly what sound should be generated. What is an influence sounds set in PADS zone for sounds set in HIHAT PEDAL zone ?
7. Which socket in Megadrum should be connected via cable with Potentiometr ?
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Re: Settings of hihat

Postby dmitri » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:14 pm

km500 wrote:1. How do you name a device which measure level of hihat (roland cy-5). It is device located under cy5 and measure (height) of that cy-5. I am using name Potentiometr. Is it right name ?

It depends on the exact device under your CY-5. If it is a fully variable HiHat controller it can be a Potentiometer or Optical or Hall Effect controller.
Or could be just a simple switch.
Or a stepped variable controller.

2. Using Roland CY-5 and Potentiometr should I set: Single Piezo or Dual or 3 zone Yamaha for BOW ? for EDGE should i set Piezo ?

Is it 1, 2 or 3 zones cymbal?
Is it piezo, piezo/switch, piezo/switch/switch or some other type of cymbal?

4. As i wrote I am using roland cy-5. Which parts of hi hat should generate signal: Bow, Bell, Edge ?

For 1 zone cymbals it's just Bow.
For 2 zones cymbals it's Bow and Edge.
For 3 zones cymbals it's Bow, Edge and Bell.
5. I have read that roland cy-5 should generate only: Bow and Edge signal. Why my roland cy-5 generate Bell signal ?

Probably you configured it incorrectly. What are the settings on the cymbal?
6. Make some setting of Hihat I can do some settings in few zones.
    a. Left zone: MISC
    b. Center zone name: HIHAT PEDAL
    c. Right zone: PADS (HEAD/BOW and RIM/EDGE)
What is connection between sounds set in PADS zone and sounds set in HIHAT PEDAL zone ? Settings done in HIHAT PEDAL zone describe exactly what sound should be generated. What is an influence sounds set in PADS zone for sounds set in HIHAT PEDAL zone ?

You should really read http://www.megadrum.info/content/hihat-pedal-settings , e.g. for "HiHat Pedal->BowSO/EdgeSO/BellSO" it says"
"Set the note number which MegaDrum will send when you hit HiHat on the Bow/Edge/Bell and the HiHat pedal is between fully open and half pressed (half open)."


7. Which socket in Megadrum should be connected via cable with Potentiometr ?

HiHat pedal input.
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Re: Settings of hihat

Postby km500 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:25 pm

Is it 1, 2 or 3 zones cymbal?
Is it piezo, piezo/switch, piezo/switch/switch or some other type of cymbal?


Roland web site provides only such information:
The pad also provides separate bow and edge triggering.


Wikipedia page information:
Pad Name : CY-5
Zones/ Channels : 2 (Stereo)
Trigger Head/Bow : Piezo
Trigger Rim/Edge : Switch
Trigger Bell : –
Positional Sensing : –
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Re: Settings of hihat

Postby dmitri » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:01 pm

Then it is a 2 zones piezo/switch cymbal.
In http://www.megadrum.info/content/pads-settings read about PadName->DualHead, PadName->Type and PadName->Threshold. It explains how to configure 2 zones piezo/switch pads/cymbals.
Also read http://www.megadrum.info/content/settin ... one-cymbal ignoring everything about 3rd zone.
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Re: Settings of hihat

Postby km500 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:12 pm

7. Which socket in Megadrum should be connected via cable with Potentiometr ?
HiHat pedal input.


It means ?
which socket from the left ?
see second picture from following website:
http://www.megadrum.info/content/i-can-build-it-you


2. Do you have some all name’s list of sockets from left to right ? (first row, second row). For device shown on link above.
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Re: Settings of hihat

Postby dmitri » Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:44 am

If it's a module built by me then input jacks descriptions are in viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1392 or viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1393
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Re: Settings of hihat

Postby angr77 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:52 am

Hi!

I have the CY-5/FD-5 configured for MD in my library. http://powerhell.wordpress.com/about/zo ... d-library/

best regards

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Re: Settings of hihat

Postby km500 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:26 pm

I don’t know how to set my hihat.

a. I use Roland CY-5
b. As we agreed it is Dual zone (Piezo/ Switch)
c. I plug in to Megadrum, set some settings (see picture 1) and I have a strange results.



To provide you all information I will list all tones I have as a result of different options.
Numbers means tones which produce hihat from closed hihat position through half open to fully open hihat.
Hitting Bow – means that I am hitting Bow (only by head of stick, hits are made in the middle of plate), Hitting Edge – means that I am hitting Edge (only by body of stick, like in heavy metal music)


Single Piezo: Hitting Bow 62, 24, 25, 20, 18
Single Piezo: Hitting Edge 62, 24, 25, 20, 18

Dual or 3 way Yamaha/ Piezo: Hitting Bow 62, 24, 25, 20, 18
Dual or 3 way Yamaha/ Piezo: Hitting Edge 62, 24, 25, 20, 18

Dual or 3 way Yamaha/ Switch: Hitting Bow 0,0,0,0,0
Dual or 3 way Yamaha/ Switch: Hitting Edge 0,0,0,0,0

3 way Roland / Piezo: Hitting Bow 62, 24, 25, 20, 18 and 61, 12, 14, 16, 18
3 way Roland / Piezo: Hitting Edge 62, 24, 25, 20, 18 and 61, 12, 14, 16, 18

3 way Roland / Switch: Hitting Bow 37, 37, 37, 37 ,37
3 way Roland / Switch: Hitting Edge 61, 37, 61, 37, 37


See pictures.
I should receive other tones. What is wrong ?
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Re: Settings of hihat

Postby dmitri » Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:02 pm

Before doing anything with the HiHat pedal, you should properly configure the HiHat cymbal.
In MIDILog do you see Aftertouch On and Off messages when you press and release the edge switch?
If not, then you have not configured it properly as I advised in viewtopic.php?p=25754#p25754
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Re: Settings of hihat

Postby km500 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:39 pm

1.
press and release the edge switch


press and release - you mean hitting edge ? or you mean change from: Dual or 3 way Yamaha/ Piezo into Dual or 3 way Yamaha/ Switch


2. Here you have a picture with communicate from Mdm when I:
a. change Dual or 3 way Yamaha/ Piezo into Dual or 3 way Yamaha/ Switch
b. I hit few times
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