3 zone cymbal support, Yamaha style. How many of you need it

[dmitri]

What about Roland 3way cymbals?

[elrules]

What about Roland 3way cymbals?

Ups, I was so excited with the yamaha that I forgot. Im going to test it

[elrules]

Ok,it works good. With some hard edge hits I get an edge note and inmediately after, a bow note. That was because I needed to increase bow threshold, wasn`t it? But anyway, it works like a charm, and it chokes all the sounds of the roland-like ride.

I have also re-tested the dual piezo tom problem to be sure it is solved. As I thought it the dualzone tom now works good and have a perfect separation between zones

Good work

[dmitri]

Good! I'm now going to post a new firmware with the changes (plus some more changes).

[dcho]

Holy cow. I was gone for another month and it looks like a lot more progress on the three zone cymbals! You guys are incredible! by the way, elrules, is there an english version of your tutorial for three zone cymbals? I could not really understand what was going on in the pictures =(.

[elrules]

Hi dcho, if I have time I will try to translate it. You can start by using google translator meanwhile I don't translate it. I am now very busy programming a tool for megadrum

[johnvpr]

here is the pages translated in english, but is still difficult to understand it!


http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=it&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://portal.batacas.com/index.php%3Fview%3Darticle%26catid%3D51%253Aelectronicas%26id%3D277%253Aconstruccion-ride-electronico-3-zonas%26option%3Dcom_content%26Itemid%3D74&usg=ALkJrhgpSZKIdsi5IaGo8phbnogZqEi3eQ
(translated by http://translate.google.it/)

what I dont understand is how the alluminium from the "Coke Can" can become a switch

[gastric]

You can use a soda can, aluminum sheeting/flashing, really any conductive material that is fairly rigid but still flexible. The design is the same as Hellfire's simple switch design as documented here: http://www.hellfiredrums.com/archives/67 If you happen to convert acoustic cymbals you can use the actual cymbal as 1/2 of the switch and further simplify it. Basically what's documented is two of these switches, one on the top surface of the edge, one on the top surface of the bell. I've only used them on the bottom surface of the edge as a choke switch but it should be completely effective as documented.

Here's basically the same thing (top mounted switch) documented clearly in English here: http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread. ... e+hellfire And the OP actually used an acoustic cymbal and made the switch blend in fairly well so it's not completely unsightly.

[gastric]

Will this work on the HIHAT as well to provide separate bell/bow/edge triggering? If so, will it provide at least two MIDI NOTE triggers per zone in relation to the hihat pedal data?

[dmitri]

You can configure HiHat as 3 zone input but "built in" Half Open/Close notes will only be effective for bow/edge.
On the other hand if sampler software can properly process CC messages for a HiHat pedal, it may
properly process all three zones.