Some things I don't understand...

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Some things I don't understand...

Postby stellari81 » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:02 pm

Hi everybody!
I've some problems I really can't solve... Now, I built the digital and analogue boards (not the all-in-one kit) and I'm doing some *experiments* to test all the inputs... I can't understand where the HiHat Pedal and "cymbal" have to be connected... I mean, in the Dmitri schematics pins 1-3,5,6 on the 40pin *IDE* connector are labeled ad "HiHat Pedal ring/ HiHat Ring / HH Alternative tip / HH Pedal tip / HH tip"... but... I don't know what does it means "ring"and "tip"! :)

Can somebody (Dmitri?) explain me how shuold I connect, for example, a switch pedal or a variable pedal and where shuold I connect the piezo of the HH top cymbal?

Again I don't understand the difference between "bow", "edge", "ring", "head" etc... can you please explain in a detailed way where those zones are on a pad/cymbal? I know the translation of those words in my language but I don't know what's the meaning or the difference, I just can figure out... It would be nice to have a graphical example of the displacement and eventually the uses of those zones...

I shuold have say before that I'm not a drummer (not yet ;) ) but I'd like to make something at least decent to begin.

Finally, let's suppose that I barely understood what edge and bow are, I think I managed to build a dual-zone cymbal with no mechanical cross-talking between the two piezos... If I had understood something, the edge is the extreme zone on the cymbal (the edge! :) ) and the bow is the "internal" "hat-like" part where the cymbal is fixed to his stand, right? Well, when I hit the bow or the edge there no cross-talking even considering they're very close eachother. I think it could be interesting but now I've no photos to show you... I'll explain/show you this and my progress in the next topic(s) I'll post within a few days....

I feel so stupid posting question like this and hope that somebody else has my doubts so this post could be helpfull to other as to me...

By now I thank you all for the support in anticipation!

Bye!

Stefano.
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Re: Some things I don't understand...

Postby Synthex » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:19 pm

ring = the ring on a stereo jack.
tip = the tip (extremity) on a stereo jack.
bow = the center part of a cymbal.
edge = the external part of a cymbal.
head = the center of a tom, the skin.
rim = the external part of a tom, the metal circle.
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Re: Some things I don't understand...

Postby stellari81 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:00 pm

Synthex wrote:ring = the ring on a stereo jack.
tip = the tip (extremity) on a stereo jack.
bow = the center part of a cymbal.
edge = the external part of a cymbal.
head = the center of a tom, the skin.
rim = the external part of a tom, the metal circle.



Thankyou for the reply.... Ok, now I know the meaning but... returning to the HiHat... how sould I connect a pot for the pedal and a piezo (maybe two?) on the top "plate" ?? ....
I thought Pot has to have ground and power supply (like a partitor) to output a variable signal...
so? a little draft of hihat *internal* schematic connection?

Thanks... :)
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Re: Some things I don't understand...

Postby Synthex » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:11 pm

for example :
hihat_pot_pedal.jpg


The HiHat cymbal is wired like others cymbals.
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Re: Some things I don't understand...

Postby stellari81 » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:48 pm

Synthex wrote:for example :
hihat_pot_pedal.jpg


The HiHat cymbal is wired like others cymbals.



:o Uhhh!! Now it's clear! I'm sooooo silly... :oops: .... I'll try like this...

THANKU! :)
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