Post your successful trigger settings

[dmitri]

gabriel1712, great post!
When I have time I will give a few suggestions and comments.

[kurtus420]

gabriel1712, This is layed out very well, hope to see more of this and will contribute when I get mine working.

[jeffbeckib]

I too will post my settings as soon as I have time. This is a great thread, and should be a sticky.
My snare is almost perfect to the point where you can almost drag your stick on the head and hear the mylar coating.
But hard hits sound like double triggers.

[Synthex]

Yes, great post !

[elrules]

I have create a google doc to share with all of you who have google account.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key= ... aWTgIQQA9g

Each sheet will be for each user who wants to post their results.
If you want to add another sheet, add it, and copy one (empty) sheet to another

[fuzzysnuggleduck]

Excellent work, elrules. That's a fantastic way of logging all the results from this thread. I'm visiting my MegaDrum again on Saturday, I'll bring it home and fill out one of my own sheets.

[gabriel1712]

Great idea Elrules. Then this thread could be used for discussing the different setting, without the charts getting burried.

It looks like the notes in the buttom screws up the column widths. Is there a way to assign notes to a field, so an info box with the notes pops up when you click the Quality field?

EDIT: Found it - Right button > create comment.

I have updated the template, with the notes in the comment box (click small yellow triangle) in the Quality fields.

Could you say a few words on how this thought to work? Do we all write in the same speadsheets but on our own page, write-protected so only we can change our own page?

SERVICE INFO:
If you want to use mathematical symbols as notation in a speadsheet, like:
+ Good dynamics
you need to start with a ['] without the brackets, like:
'+ Good dynamics

[dmitri]

General comments.

In my experience with AltFalseTrSupp set to Yes I get better results eliminating false triggering without effecting fast rolls. In any case it is better to start with adjusting DynLevel/DynTime to tackle false triggering/fast rolls before resorting to increasing Retrigger.

Dual puezo/switch cymbals:

• You don't really need to change Gain for Edge inputs. It only effects the switch Threshold and has no effect on the dynamic range. With the default Gain set to 4 a Threshold of 30 for the Edge input should work fine in 99% case.
• I've noticed that you have Bow Threshold set between 20 and 40. My experience with Pintech and Millenium cymbals is that they are very sensitive so in my setup I almost always have to set it above 50 even with Gain set to 0. If I set the Bow Threshold lower it makes them too susceptible to xtalk and false triggering.

Hihat: Ok
+ Great dynamics, very responsive
- Soft edge stroke trigger many bow notes

First try raising DynLvl. Then try to raise DynTime.
If you're not able to get rid of false triggering, set AltFalseTrSupp to Yes, Rettriger to 8-10, DynLvl to 3 and DynTime to 32. Try raising DynTime first and then DynLvl.

Kick: Perfekt
+ Great dynamics, very responsive, nothing to improve


Mesh drums

MD-settings-mesh.jpg

Snare: Ok
+ Great sensitivity
- Slightly messy pressrolls
- Strong head stroke occationally pulls a rim note
- Some consistency problem (equal speed trigger variable velocity)
- Light Rim strokes often trigger head notes

The mesh pad has the head piezo from under, near the rim. I have added a muffler from top to dampening

For dual piezo/piezo heads Rettriger for both the Head and the Rim should be set close to each other.
Rettriger set to 18 seems way too high for me. On my Pintech snare I set Rettriger to 6 for the Head and to 6-10 for the Rim. Again, with AltFalseTrSupp to Yes I get better results. I set Rettriger to to 2-4 for the Head and 6-10 for the Rim, DynLvl to 3 and DynTime to 64.

Curve is very important for getting best consistency.

• If inconsistency tends to be more for light strokes, the Curve should be less logarithmic and more exponential.
• If inconsistency tends to be more for strong strokes, the Curve should be less exponential and more logarithmic.
• If inconsistency tends to be more for mid range strokes then the Curve set to S1 may be a good bet.
• If inconsistency tends to be more for light and strong strokes but not for mid range strokes then the Curve set to S2 may be a best option.
• I may add more S-type curves.

If inconsistency is all over the place you may need to raise MinScan.

Tom1: ok
- Some consistency problem (equal speed trigger variable velocity)
- Light Rim strokes often trigger head notes

What I wrote about consistency for the Snare aplies to Tom1 and all other pads.
Again, Rettriger 20 on the Head seems too high and far apart from Rettriger for the Rim.
For light Rim strokes to triiger rim notes and not to trigger head notes you may want any of these:
1. Lower Threshold for the Rim or raise Threshold for the Head.
2. Lower HighLevel for the Rim or raise HighLevel for the Head so that MegaDrum gave more weight to Rim signals when it detects signals on both Head and Rim

Cymbals

MD-settings-cymbals.jpg

Crash: Good
- Very soft edge stroke trigger bow notes. Retrigger on bow set high to avoid double notes in that case.

If the edge stroke are so soft that they don't force the edge switch to make, there is no way for MegaDrum to register it as an edge signal. Instead of raising Retrigger it is better to raise the Threshold. I also would raise Threshold. See what I wrote about HiHat.

Curve: s1 on bow to delay 'crash-point'. I like to ride my crashes.

Ride - 2zone: Good
+ With 3rd zone disabled, edge and bell gives same sound with this setting (I use bell sample).
+ Great sensitivity
- Small tweaks in dynamics can be done

Ride - 3zone: Not done
- Getting consistent bell and egde is a hassle. I'll offer a midway point soon.

Waiting for more info.

Crash2 : ok
- Soft edge stroke trigger bow notes.
- The pad has a hotspot weakness in design
- Dynamics on edge is uneven

See my comments above about Curves and consistency.

[kimouette]

Wow Dmitri thanks for this great post!!
This is actually the kind of explanation I was hoping to find in the documention : concrete, clear, detailed and based on a real situation.
I think this is gonna be usefull for a lot of us

[gabriel1712]

Great comments Dmitri!

I'll give it a good run tonight

I may have been unclear explaining this:

Hihat: Ok
+ Great dynamics, very responsive
- Soft edge stroke trigger many bow notes

First try raising DynLvl. Then try to raise DynTime.
If you're not able to get rid of false triggering, set AltFalseTrSupp to Yes, Rettriger to 8-10, DynLvl to 3 and DynTime to 32. Try raising DynTime first and then DynLvl.

The challenge is not retriggering, but many (almost all) light edge strokes is producing bow notes instead of edge notes. A challenge to get the right threshold balance between edge and bow, I guess.

Still great to learn the best trial order for tackling retriggering.