Program changes to load drum maps + configs?

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Program changes to load drum maps + configs?

Postby el-dr » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:31 am

Dmitri,

a few days ago I made a feature request, so that MD would accept program change messages, which you added to the latest fw the same day (that's what I call perfect support :D ). Now that I managed to heal the infamous USB plague, I tried this new feature and it works as expected, thanks. You also asked me if program changes should be used to select Configs as well.

I was very wrong when I said it's not so important, because I was not fully aware of the MD object concept at that time. Because all other trig-to-MIDI converters I know have some kind of "kit" or "set" object, I thought Drum Maps were the MD equivalent of that, which is basically true, but with an important restriction.

While other converters have a set of common parameters (base channel, sometimes input sensitivity, threshold etc.) and "Kits" usually contain at least a pair of Channel and Note numbers for each input (and sometimes curves etc.), the MD Drum Maps contain Note assignments only and the Channel info belongs to the Config objects.

This means that if I want to change between "setups" (e.g. switching from triggering one sound source to a different one, which is likely to be set to a different MIDI Channel), changing the Drum Maps is not always enough, because selecting a new Config is the only way to change the transmit Channel. So would it be possible to apply this new feature to changing the Configs, too? It could work the exact same way as for the Drum Maps: because MD will never store 128 Drum Maps, there could be a currently unused range of Program Change messages (e.g. above 64) that would Load Configs.

I hope this would be just as simple as adding the Load Drum Maps by Program Changes feature... Please ;)
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Re: Program changes to load drum maps + configs?

Postby dmitri » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:17 pm

I'll think about it and I'll probably do it.
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Re: Program changes to load drum maps + configs?

Postby jd2010 » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:22 pm

Im not totally sure what he's asking, but along the same lines, in order to play rock band or guitar hero, you have to assign pads to certain note numbers that are non-standard. Im unsure if MCT can set these note numbers as a setup or if they have to be configured differently with the channel settings.

If there is a way that I could quickly load a preset that would have the right note numbers on it and then be able to switch back and forth, thatd be awesome. And there may already be that. Im just a lowely megadrum noob, still finding my way around MCT.
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Re: Program changes to load drum maps + configs?

Postby dmitri » Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:04 pm

jd2010 wrote:Im not totally sure what he's asking, but along the same lines, in order to play rock band or guitar hero, you have to assign pads to certain note numbers that are non-standard. Im unsure if MCT can set these note numbers as a setup or if they have to be configured differently with the channel settings.

If there is a way that I could quickly load a preset that would have the right note numbers on it and then be able to switch back and forth, thatd be awesome. And there may already be that. Im just a lowely megadrum noob, still finding my way around MCT.

You can exactly that with Drum Maps. And you can change them very quickly even without MCT. Look at http://www.megadrum.info/content/config ... -and-hints
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Re: Program changes to load drum maps + configs?

Postby el-dr » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:37 pm

dmitri wrote:I'll think about it and I'll probably do it.

Let me know if I can do anything to turn that "probably" into "surely"! Maybe another video would help? ;)
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Re: Program changes to load drum maps + configs?

Postby dmitri » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:10 pm

el-dr wrote:
dmitri wrote:I'll think about it and I'll probably do it.

Let me know if I can do anything to turn that "probably" into "surely"! Maybe another video would help? ;)

I'll do it, I'm not a machine ;)
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Re: Program changes to load drum maps + configs?

Postby el-dr » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:23 pm

dmitri wrote:
el-dr wrote:
dmitri wrote:I'll think about it and I'll probably do it.

Let me know if I can do anything to turn that "probably" into "surely"! Maybe another video would help? ;)

I'll do it, I'm not a machine ;)

Thanks for pointing that out, because I was absolutely convinced that you actually are. No human being can be online 24/7, reply nearly every post within a few minutes and simultaneously develop MD, so I thought we're talking to a DmitriBot here in this forum while the real Dmitri is on a long holiday in the Caribbean. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Program changes to load drum maps + configs?

Postby dmitri » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:06 pm

Check the latest firmware.
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Re: Program changes to load drum maps + configs?

Postby el-dr » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:03 am

dmitri wrote:Check the latest firmware.

This is brilliant! So, you took your computer to your holiday! :D
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Re: Program changes to load drum maps + configs?

Postby Ken Forgettable » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:00 pm

el-dr wrote:This is brilliant!
Now what about the video :P
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